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Train_Paper_Plant_Train cars Building instructions
- Arduino, Delphi, free pascal, and Lazarus code is at SourceForge EMPCCCC files page .. if at all
A kit bashed FreightCar America BethGon twin tub 72 foot FPBX wood chip car (711..842) from rrpicturearchives.net made from 2 BNSF Coalporters. Right photos are covers bashed from 50' resin cover Models by Dave. They are on the painted cars. The covers will just be sitting around as the cars will have some type of wood chip material that will be rotary dumped and conveyor loaded below. Probably use unpainted or 'tan' painted perlite for wood chips, red-gray painted perlite for ore-rock, and black painted perlite for coal.
A 72' wood chip Bethgon with tub floors (Freightcar America) I bashed from two E&C Shops Coalgons. This and its follow on cars will be used with a rotary dumper I will scratchbuild... someday (probably not as the Walthers kit seems to be workable). One of the Coalgons I broke fixing something I glued together wrong. Being careful with the second, you will notice (well, its actually not visible here) I still managed to glue the brake wheel to one end and the cylinder to the other. These 'kits' are not made anymore and Walthers coalgons are made with a metal bar as part of the frame and thus too difficult to kit bash as the E&C kits were. (Ebay has them maybe... if you find them as 'buy now' {I bought 14 to make 7 cars plus the one is eight total}, bidding is ___ since anonymous e-mail, phones, and bidders defaulting and then other bidders bidding right up to just below your max limit make for criminally high payments.) This car is almost ready for the 'paint shop' as AAR type J314 class GT Plate F is used by 'International Paper Corporation' with the reporting marks FPBX of 'old' acquired Federal Paper Board company, not BNSF. The cover is similar to one I saw on woodchip cars, seems a lot better than having to crawl across the load to place netting over the chips to keep them from flying off and away.
The unused 'little' ends of the two cars were glued together to form the mini-gon used on the Rotary Dumper to house the push button switches and 2 leds. The other mini-gons will be used as rock cars for the barge-rotary dumper. Uhm well to make an equal amount of 'pairs' I have recovered the mini-gon and have it painted with the other 7 to make 8 for four pairs. It turns out the mini-gon pairs are as long as a woodchip car, so they will be used as the third shift. Will use something else for the Rock Lobster dumper - conveyor unloader.
- Apparently NS also has Woodchip hoppers similar to FPBX, although they are filed under a different type-class. Type E707 Class GTS Plate F. Only the NS Plate F are similar. Longer than 61' but dunno if they are 72'.
- Bashing only works with 14 panel aluminum cars (BNSF, UP, ...), the 13 panel cars (CSX and NS steel rebuilds) make it difficult to cut and reassemble the cars cleanly as the panel line is not in the center.
Actually it is simpler to cut the 13 panel cars (maybe - have not done it and only have the two and they are cannibalized to get the others working)- skip the part of cutting out the center and cut two Long and glue them together. The two short ends make the mini.
- Cut 6 middle panels from one car and glue the ends together to make a mini-gon.
- Cut one car in half and glue the 6 panels in between the ends.
- Glue 0.100 x 0.250 " styrene strips around the top to raise the height.
- As of 2017Feb4 : It seems that a car can be cut off center and glue the long parts together and the short parts together - that saves 1 cut and 1 seam. Do not have the 13 panel cars any more so cannot verify and figure out how, if Now cutting 14 panel cars off center would work - then How would doing that with 13 panel cars work ?
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- I have 9 62' GN blue woodchip cars and 8 72' IP/FPBX greenish woodchip cars. 9x62=558 8x72=576 Thus there are 2 'sets' so one can be dumping above while the other 'set' is being conveyor loaded below. The mini-gons third shift would be 4 (pairs)x62=248. Might do i dunno with them.
- ...576 + 248 = 824 // 8x72=576 .. 11x72=792 ..would need 4 more gons to make 2+ 1 from the CSX pair to make 11 total...
- As of 2017Feb4 : actually the GN cars are 8" and the IP are 9" SO 9x8" = 8x9", maybe they are not 72' cars, huh.
- The measurements are short about 1/4" and of the Inside of the cars...
- 9x87=783 ... 783/12=65.25...
- 8x87=696 ... 696 / 12 = 58...
- 1" = 7.25' So definitely not 72' cars
- Googled Walthers cars and they are 61' , dunno where I got that they were 62' cars. That makes the 72' cars even less, maybe 68 or 69'.
- WHATEVER they are 9 GN = 8 IP in internal length.
- Walthers wood chips and E&C coalporters are only on Ebay these days...
- Outgoing cars : loads of paper
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